In the case of biology professor P. Z. Myers, the answer to that question shouldn’t be all that difficult to discern, especially considering the fact he wrote a book titled The Happy Atheist.
Though I don’t know Professor Myers, should we ever meet, I suspect it is possible we could consider each other a friend, in spite of our vast difference in opinion about certain mutual topics of interest.
One reason I think it’s possible is because it seems that we share a few things in common. Also, I respect his honesty.
For example, I agreed with him completely when he wrote that saying “abiogenesis is not evolution” is a cop-out and commend Professor Myers for his intellectual courage to admit it.
After all, more than once I have asserted that life cannot evolve until it exists myself.
The logical foundation for making the connection between life and its origin would seem to be inarguable — but that doesn’t keep some people from wanting to argue about it.
Several of my atheist friends have tried to rebut the “Big Picture” argument presented in my book Counterargument for God by saying the ability for a living organism to change and the origin of life are two completely separate processes as unrelated as gravity and germ theories, which is just plain silly to even suggest.
The hypothesis called abiogenesis might be an issue for chemistry and the theory of evolution a philosophical interest in biology, but biological organisms are created by chemical reactions forming complex structures. That little fact is undeniable.
Going beyond our agreement about the significance of abiogenesis, it might be interesting to note that Professor Myers and I were both raised Lutheran. Furthermore, we are both writers. He blogs regularly at Pharyngula, and I haphazardly voice my opinion on a very wide range of subjects right here at southernprose.com.
However, I’m afraid that may be the full extent of what P. Z. Myers and I have in common. As an atheist, he believes in neither a supernatural God or an afterlife, and he derives much of his pleasure from looking down rather snobbishly on those who do.
Unfortunately I can’t even score any brownie points with Professor Myers by writing a rave review about his book. Frankly, I’m much more impressed with his blogging.
His book simply wasn’t very good. In fact, The Happy Atheist reads like a cobbled-together collection of lesser material that didn’t merit publication on his blog.
For example, on pages 62 and 63 in an essay titled “Afterlife? What Afterlife?”, Myers wrote:
Look at the stories religious people make up. They know nothing of the deep history of the world, so they create a fable about a humanlike deity as one would construct a house. They know nothing of disease, so they make up imaginary demons and spirits that torment us. They don’t understand geology or the weather, so every natural catastrophe becomes a warning shot from an angry god. They want power, so they pretend that their incantations and rituals will get them the blessings of their god. Most pathetic of all, they fear death, so they’ve invented fabulous heavens to tempt and hells to terrify. They’re all lies. Religious people don’t know what happens after we die–they can only pretend to know. No one has returned from an unambiguous death to tell us what goes on afterward, and the people who do claim to have had visions of an afterlife or ghosts or souls are not consistent with each other. The only reason to invent a story that we have a “spirit” that will “live on” after our death is that it’s what people want to hear. Death is frightening, so it’s easy for people to believe in an afterlife. But there is no evidence at all for an afterlife.
Notice the sweeping generalization containing all these assumptions Professor Myers has made about people with religious beliefs in one paragraph–that we “know nothing” about the deep history of the world, or disease. We don’t understand geology or weather.
Reading Professor Myers, it seems clear that in his opinion, no really logical and smart person could ever believe in God.
However, the most significant problem with his diatribe in the paragraph above is that atheists don’t know what happens when we die, either. Claiming that what others believe is a lie implies that the person making that declaration knows the truth with absolute certainty.
In reality, nobody does. Our best sources for potential information about what happens after we die might be gleaned from interviews with Pam Reynolds or Matthew Botsford.
Regardless of whether it was born of ignorance or denial, Myers’s claim “there is no evidence at all for an afterlife” simply isn’t true.
There are phenomena known as corroborated veridical NDE perceptions that clearly seem to demonstrate that the mind and brain are separable entities and strongly suggest our conscious mind may be able to survive physical death.
On the other hand, in an essay beginning on page 149 titled “Our Brains Are Full of Contradictions,” Myers wrote,
“When we claim that, because so-and-so is a scientist, every thought in his head must be automatically legitimate in the scientific sphere, we’re making a glorified argument from authority — we’re making a logical fallacy. There’s plenty of room for each one of us to be wrong.”
Because I reject arguments attempted using authority on a fairly regular basis, I appreciate the honesty of Professor Myers in conceding that point and agree with his debunking the argument from authority. Unfortunately, he later tries to use a similar argument from authority when on page 160, in an essay titled”Religion Fails as a Source of Knowledge.” Myers wrote:
Science and religion are incompatible in all of the ways that count. Science works. Religion doesn’t.
That is an argument attempting to use his authority as an academic to assert a baseless claim in support of his atheistic beliefs. What does it mean to say “religion doesn’t work?”
Probably the most positive thing I can say about The Happy Atheist is the book is short, a quick read. However, it lacks much in the way of real substance that might serve to validate his atheistic worldview, except to say it makes Professor Myers feel better about himself to feel superior to other people. For him, happiness seems to be found in something other than a normal, well-developed sense of humor.
He claims to derive a schadenfreude-like pleasure from watching people he believes to be foolish acting like fools. In the opening chapter titled “Morning in the Midwest,” Myers describes his neighbors as “good people” and says they aren’t stupid — except about their religious beliefs, of course.
Most of the chapters/essays have pithy titles such as “The Top Ten Reasons Religion Is Like Pornography,” “The Big Pink Guy in the Sky,” and “Laughter as a Strategy for Diminishing Religion.”
The irony of his writing “I’m Not a Spoiled Child Having a Temper Tantrum” is quite delicious, especially considering the fact that in other chapters, Myers brags about his plans to desecrate a communion wafer, and burying Bibles to fertilize his garden.
What Professor Myers fails to explain in his book is how other atheists might become happy without looking down in condescension toward people who believe in a supernatural God. When he proclaims “Science works. Religion doesn’t.” he’s making the tacit admission that he doesn’t really even understand the only two real alternatives from which we must choose, if we seek a glimpse of an existential Big Picture.
We don’t have a choice to make between science and religion. Science is merely a tool we use to help us form answers to our existential questions that conform to our personal worldview.
The existential questions focus on the relative probability of whether or not a creator God exists.
In other words, we must choose between God and virtually impossible, certainly not very plausible good luck.
While the condescending tone that Myers uses is unnecessary, I feel like your counterpoints are just as biased and unfounded as his.
“In other words, we must choose between God and virtually impossible, certainly not very plausible good luck.”
This makes it sound as if a “God” is more plausible than random chance, which is not so. It is true that the events that lead to our existence were very unlikely, but such is the way of nature. Each person alive was the result of random chance- there was a one in multiple million chance of the one sperm and egg meeting that creates an individual. Looking back, it is “virtually impossible” that that specific sperm fertilized that specific egg. But because there were so many sperm, the fertilization itself is not that surprising. Think of the number of planets in the universe- you can’t, because the number is so large it is unfathomable by humans. Is it really that surprising that at least one had just the right conditions for life? Not really.
“What Professor Myers fails to explain in his book is how other atheists might become happy without looking down in condescension toward people who believe in a supernatural God.”
Was the purpose of his book to explain how atheist’s are able to be happy? I honestly do not know, but if it is, then what a silly subject for a book. Everybody finds happiness in their own manner, and nobody can define happiness for somebody else. Not all atheists are happy for the same reasons, and there is surely some overlap between what makes atheists and theists happy. Personally, I do not derive any pleasure from condescending people of religion. I find happiness in education, in community building through secular humanism, in fighting to make the most of the life I have now, since I believe it is the only one I’ve got. I think the terminal aspect of life is in part what makes it so beautiful.
But those are just personal views. I think you should look to more distinguished atheists, or at least more well-articulated ones, for discussion material.
My first criticism is that in this article you should have introduced your topic by giving the reader a synopsis of what Myers’ ‘The Happy Atheist’ book had been about. This makes the reader suspect as to whether you actually read the book or not.
There is some hypocrisy in your article, you argue that Myers’ has stated a logical fallacy which was argument of authority but yet you commit the same fallacy here:
“For example, I agreed with him completely when he wrote that saying “abiogenesis is not evolution” is a cop-out and commend Professor Myers for his intellectual courage to admit it.”
It wouldn’t matter what he stated since science is not based on authority but on evidence. Also, Myers’ wasn’t admitting or confessing that in order for evolution to be true that abiogenesis needs to be confirmed, this is what he said:
“#15 is also a pet peeve: “Evolution is a theory about the origin of life” is presented as false. It is not. I know many people like to recite the mantra that “abiogenesis is not evolution,” but it’s a cop-out. Evolution is about a plurality of natural mechanisms that generate diversity. It includes molecular biases towards certain solutions and chance events that set up potential change as well as selection that refines existing variation. Abiogenesis research proposes similar principles that led to early chemical evolution. Tossing that work into a special-case ghetto that exempts you from explaining it is cheating, and ignores the fact that life is chemistry. That creationists don’t understand that either is not a reason for us to avoid it.”
What Myers’ clear is trying to say to his fellow biologists it to not use the “abiogenesis is not evolution” as a cop out as to not to try to explain the origins of life, no that abiogenesis is needed for evolution to be true. Read that again, just in case John:
““#15 is also a pet peeve: “Evolution is a theory about the origin of life” is presented as false. It is not.”
“The hypothesis called abiogenesis might be an issue for chemistry”
If you are going to try to criticize a field of science, the least thing you can do is trying to learn and understand more about a subject matter. Abiogenesis is a scientific theory, “the process by which a living organism arises naturally from non-living matter, as opposed to biogenesis, which is the creation of living organisms by other living
organisms.”
“ the theory of evolution a philosophical interest in biology”
There is nothing philosophical about evolution since it is backed up by several independent lines of evidence hence every rational person that understands evolution accepts it. Just because you take a literal interpretation of the bible doesn’t mean facts diminish.
As I read further, you seem to go into a non-sequitur. You stated:
“Reading Professor Myers, it seems clear that in his opinion, no really logical and smart person could ever believe in God.” Myers’ never stated that there aren’t intelligent and renown scientists who also believe in God(s), but the fact that religion originated by fear of death, that was his simple statement basically.
“There are phenomena known as corroborated veridical NDE perceptions that clearly seem to demonstrate that the mind and brain are separable entities and strongly suggest “
Of course this would not count as evidence for Myers’ since anecdotal evidence is not evidence at all. There are anecdotes for alien encounters, bigfoot, that Elvis is still alive but none of this serves as evidence at all. This is another logical fallacy, anecdotal fallacy.
“Science and religion are incompatible in all of the ways that count. Science works. Religion doesn’t.”
When Myer’s made this statement he wasn’t making an argument from authority. He wasn’t giving a trusted opinion on a subject matter, he was simply making an argument of his opinion.
“Probably the most positive thing I can say about The Happy Atheist is the book is short, a quick read. However, it lacks much in the way of real substance that might serve to validate his atheistic worldview”
The book is 208 pages long, which is longer than your book, ‘Counter Argument for God’.
Dear Mr. “Denver”,
I’m so pleased to learn you actually survived the plane crash in San Francisco — or, are you communicating with me from the dead?
In either event, you could stand to do a little fact checking yourself. The print copy of “Counterargument for God” is 487 pages long, which the last time I checked my math, was quite a bit more than 208.
You obviously haven’t read my book or “The Happy Atheist” by Professor Myers. You didn’t read what I wrote very clearly, either, because I never suggested the stuff about abiogenesis and evolution came from his book, and provided the link to the original material.
One more thing — abiogenesis is a hypothesis, not a theory.